[barnslyben]

just been reading a post on the runningdog section about a dog whos leg just snapped playing in the garden, only 8mths old ,a few weeks back at whippet racing a dog snapped its leg while racing ,a mate of mine had a 4mth old whippet snap its back leg it was only playing in the garden.but another mate at racing said he never had a dog break its leg and hes had 20 odd dogs in 50yrs ,is it because these dogs have a inborn fault ,or a lack of something in there food or whatever else?atb BB

[poacher3161]

Well all the years i have had dogs i have never had a pup break its leg just by running about so i would say it was a genetic fault.Its different if they run into something and wat amazes me is more people think the faster the dog more stuff it will catch [BANNED TEXT] IMHO it will only pick more injuries up.atb dell

[little lurcher]

i have a theory and could very well be wrong , but with the amount of commercial food available breeders tend to use the complete feeds , and over the years we have evidence of the crap that goes into it there is not a lot of greatness in these foods , look how fast pups grow on it , a raw or homemade diet the pups grow at a more natural pace , i have used both methods and i saw the difference in 2 seperate litters of whippets , both of similar breeding , so was able to make a true comparison , the raw and homemade fed pups were better mentally all the way through and entered the field earlier with a steady head , the dry fed , were over a yr old before settling enough to do any real work

like i say this is just MY opinion but diets today imo are lacking and i truly believe thats why we have behaviour , skin , teeth etc problems today

[barnslyben]

little lurcher, on Oct 15 2009, 07:22 PM, said:

i have a theory and could very well be wrong , but with the amount of commercial food available breeders tend to use the complete feeds , and over the years we have evidence of the crap that goes into it there is not a lot of greatness in these foods , look how fast pups grow on it , a raw or homemade diet the pups grow at a more natural pace , i have used both methods and i saw the difference in 2 seperate litters of whippets , both of similar breeding , so was able to make a true comparison , the raw and homemade fed pups were better mentally all the way through and entered the field earlier with a steady head , the dry fed , were over a yr old before settling enough to do any real work

like i say this is just MY opinion but diets today imo are lacking and i truly believe thats why we have behaviour , skin , teeth etc problems today

i agree in what you are saying ll i feed my racing whippet pup babymilk for his breakie , and chicken wings for dinner with alpha racer for dinner trying to get as much calcium down him as poss,a good friend ,darren young told me bone makes bone so this is why i feed the wings raw .but the friend whos had racing whips for 50 yrs starts his pups off on 33% alpha racer then 27% when 6mths old never had a dog break its leg so who knows ,keep ya ideas coming atbBB

This post has been edited by barnslyben: 15 October 2009 - 10:14 PM

[craigyboy]

little lurcher, on Oct 15 2009, 07:22 PM, said:

i have a theory and could very well be wrong , but with the amount of commercial food available breeders tend to use the complete feeds , and over the years we have evidence of the crap that goes into it there is not a lot of greatness in these foods , look how fast pups grow on it , a raw or homemade diet the pups grow at a more natural pace , i have used both methods and i saw the difference in 2 seperate litters of whippets , both of similar breeding , so was able to make a true comparison , the raw and homemade fed pups were better mentally all the way through and entered the field earlier with a steady head , the dry fed , were over a yr old before settling enough to do any real work

like i say this is just MY opinion but diets today imo are lacking and i truly believe thats why we have behaviour , skin , teeth etc problems today

i agree mate all the way :clapper:

[Big Dog222]

If born isn't strong, the mussel may be able to break the bone. I once heard of a man breaking his arm leaning on a barrel. The theory is that at one point in his leaning, the mussel were not supporting his arm and all his weight came on the bone which snapped. Don't know if that is true but the guys arm did snap. :blink:

[sandymere]

Probably safer on complete as the calcium is balenced, whereas to much through high bone content in the diet can lead to bone disformity but in truth it's likely nothing to do with diet. Running dogs break their legs sometimes, the speed they go causes unatural stresses the the whole body and sometimes it can't take the strain. Puppies like children are at higher risk of breaks as they are still developing so there are imbalences in the musclskeletal systems.

[moonlighter]

i new of 2 pups out of the same litter who both snapped there front legs, before they was 2 years old......could it be that bad diet as a pup contributed to this,,and maybe once the damage has been done(bad diet) no amount of calicum from the new owner can rectify it??

[sandymere]

Could possible be diet or just as likely an inherited problem.

[events co-ordinator]

There could be genetic factor these balanced diets are made up by the same companies that put fliers in vets saying dogs are omnivores my terriers are always fed on
chicken wings breast of lamb etc. Look at what comes out of dogs fed raw meat,a lot less than on dry food! speaks for its self.

[martync1967]

owned and worked dogs for twenty years never have any of my animals broke anything could have something to do with genes but thats my opinion

[Back Stabbath]

events co-ordinator, on Oct 23 2009, 07:45 PM, said:

There could be genetic factor these balanced diets are made up by the same companies that put fliers in vets saying dogs are omnivores my terriers are always fed on
chicken wings breast of lamb etc. Look at what comes out of dogs fed raw meat,a lot less than on dry food! speaks for its self.

:blink:
Dogs are omnivores mate... Mainly carniverous omnivores. Studied it at college... Also you gotta remember dogs are not exactly the same as wolves, they've been bred for thousands of years and a lot of that time they were eating less meat than wolves so they can do fine on a diet with some non meat food. Not disagreeing with what you're sayin tho bout dogs having proper meat in their diet and staying away from commercial crap.
Just thought I'd put that out there! :laugh:

[Back Stabbath]

And about the broken legs, in my opinion it would be mostly bad genetics. Diet would deffo come into it when they are developing etc. but theres only so far a bad diet can go really, whippets have been bred to be skinny and we all know how breeding can go too far. Combined with a bad diet, well thats asking for trouble! Genetics no. one, food no. 2 is what I would say.

[WILF]

I dont think genetics has anything to do with it, I just think shit happens..........nothing more to it that that!

[Back Stabbath]

Well there is that too! But if you think about it like how many say, labradors would be likely to break their legs in the same situations as the whippet were? Bigger stronger bones, different genetics. I suppose there are a lot of variables though